Posted by Roland Cannon on August 05, 2000 at 14:17:03:
In Reply to: When to go to a High-Dollar Air Pistol? posted by Sam on August 05, 2000 at 12:39:38:Posted by Sam on August 05, 2000 at 20:05:58:
Do you like your P-34's and LP10's respectively? Do you still use your "old" guns. What made you go for one gun over the another? Where did ya'll get the fittings to hook up to a scuba tank? Do you think it's a good idea to just stick to one gun vs. shooting others for practice? Thanks again.
Posted by Bob LeDoux on August 05, 2000 at 20:41:16:
I printed a message back in April that explains my reasons for a P34 over an LP10. Go read that, its down earlier on this page. Your opinions may be different.
I still play around with the -46, put put about 1200 pellets a month through the P34. I fill my gun up using an Axsor pump, exclusively. So I don't own a scuba tank.
Posted by Gene Rotsch on August 08, 2000 at 20:15:10:
While I was at the Atlanta World Cup in July I noticed a gentleman from one of the attending national teams (never did find out what country).
He was shooting a FWB Model 65. His training scores were in the 550-560 range. Just shows, when your technique is precise and consistant, the equipment is personal taste and what gives you the most confidence.
Posted by mako on August 06, 2000 at 00:06:59:
I travel a lot so I use my IZH46 on the road and the LP10 at home and at matches.
I have to say that I still really like my IZH. After a lot of work the grip fits me perfectly. I'm still working on the LP10 grip. The IZH is very quiet (good for hotel rooms :-) and smooth, broken in. Since it's a bit under powered you really have to have your s__t together with it. The pellet is in that barrel a looong time. But I love the LP10 and as soon as I get the grip fit perfected I'll have no more excuse .... :-)
One of the best things about the LP10 is having Pilkgun behind you! Great service!
Posted by Roland Cannon on August 06, 2000 at 10:38:24:
Sam, I remember the day I figured this all out. I was shooting in my warehouse. Sitting on my shooting table was a Tau 7, an Aeron Chamelion, Steyr Lp1p, Morini 162e, the then new Steyr Lp 10, and an IZH 46.
Most of the guns were Scott Pilkingtons. It was fun just to shoot one for a bit, set it aside, and move on. All of them were good, a few great, but out of all of them I kept only the LP 10. I liked the grips and balance more than the others. I had thought about keeping the Morini, but I felt it was difficult to switch between different guns. It takes a minute before a different gun feels right. That time spent adjusting could have been decent practice time!
The Steyr's come with the adaptor you need to fill from the pump. Most other ten meter pistols do as well. If you want to fill pistols and rifles from the same pump, Mac-1 has a quick release setup that is very cool.
Posted by Sam on August 06, 2000 at 14:01:29:
Roland,
Thanks for the good advice. I have a IZH-46, Aeron Chameleon, and a FWB 65II. For some reason when I'm not shooting well with one, I can pick up one of the others and start shooting decently again. The 65II seems to require "the right mood" for me to shoot it well. When I don't is probably when I need to keep shooting and figure out why not. There's something to be said about just using one pistol.
I've tried a Morini, a P-34 and a LP-10. I like the LP-10 the best for the same reasons you described. That might just be my Christmas present to myself! Thanks again.
Posted by Bob LeDoux on August 05, 2000 at 14:57:19:
We have a local coach who enjoys sending kids to camp with 747's. His kids are good enough to place well against their well-funded competitors with fancy name German guns.
This same coach says that until you shoot 550/600, there is little need to go the big bucks.
I listened to him, and the first time I managed to break 550 with my IZH-46, I went out and ordered a FWB P34.
I can't say it made my shooting any better, but I have no more excuses for my follies. The German gun makes me feel more important. Funny how that is.
PS: My wife saw the new gun and decided she could afford a new car. That was the most expensive airgun I ever bought at $21,000.
Posted by Andre on August 06, 2000 at 00:17:36:
Hi! I had the same doubt about a month ago and posted a question just like it. I got a great answer from Warren Potter! Check it out!I started out on a FWB 80 (it's just like the 65, but with an adjustable trigger), and I currently shoot a FWB model 2, a CO2 powered gun. Getting a new gun gives you more incentive to practice(it's fun to play with new toys), but don't expect an immediate rise in your scores. If you can afford it, I think you should get the best equipment possible. But remember, it hurts more to be hammered by an old timer with a FWB 65 if you're shooting a $1000 gun! And that a FWB 65 or a Model 2 is well capable of 570+ scores in the hands of a master.
Posted by Nicolas on August 07, 2000 at 09:10:28:
A good used Co2 gun or new PCP gun can take make shooting much more effecient and easier with the additional adjustments in the trigger, sights, grip and balance. When I switched from a FWB M-65 to a FWB C-20, I noticed an immediate difference. I wasn't working so hard (by cocking the weapon), I could adjust the trigger to exactly the way I wanted it, the grip was much more adjustable, and I could put different weights on the gun in different areas to balance it out better.
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