Posted by Brucie on December 03, 2001 at 12:19:54:
Can someone tell me about the love (or lack of it) for the slant grip used on free pistols? It seems to me that for a true "free pistol", everything should be adjustable including grip angle and left to right rotation angle.
When I look at FP's, they seem to all be the same.
I really like the angle I set my LP1 air pistol to but can't do it with FP's unless the accepted norm is to buy one and have to hack away and build up all over the place.
Thanks!
Posted by Mako on December 03, 2001 at 14:36:40:
The popular Toz FP (all eight finalist at this years Nationals were using Toz's) doesn't have any adjustments ... unless yours has the adjustable palm rest. As far as I know everyone tinkers away with their grips ... it's what free pistol shooters do when they aren't actually shooting.
I was lucky to have the Gripman do mine ... a well spent $80 ($90?). Apparently he can do magic with your grip just by working long distance with a photo copy of your hand ... I'm not at my regular computer so I don't have Seaton Thomas email address handy.
As you know ... the idea behind the full enclosed free pistol grip is that you don't have to grip anything ... it just hangs there and you touch off the trigger. The only problem is that the world record holder for match plus finals uses a very tight grip ... following the mantra, tight grip, tight group .
With the "broken" wrist grip you aren't suppose to need any effort to keep the pistol up and generally aimed. Your wrist is suppose to be in the all-the-way-down position ... where it can't go any further ... thus not requiring any effort .
Posted by Chris on December 03, 2001 at 14:43:27:
My LP10 and Toz have about the same grip angle.
If you are concerned with it you need to take out the files and start removing wood. Or you could spend the time behind the bolt training.
Both will add points to your average but the second will add points faster.
Posted by john bickar on December 03, 2001 at 18:45:00:
While 9 times out of 10 I will agree with Chris's statement, "Or you could spend the time behind the bolt training...will add points faster," this time I have to say that getting a grip to fit correctly on a free pistol is paramount for two reasons:
1)A free pistol really needs to point directly at the target when you put it up there (this is more crucial with free than with some other pistols b/c of the long sight radius)
2)VERY IMPORTANT: A free pistol with too severe of a rake can cause tendonitis in your elbow, which really, really, really sucks.
Posted by Chris on December 11, 2001 at 00:49:57:
John,
I do agree with you. When I saw this post I was thinking about Bill D. and the pistol he used to set the WR w/finals that had the grip which did not fit.
Posted by John Wo on December 03, 2001 at 16:13:02:
Steyr's FP has all the same grip adjustments as your LP1. Morini also makes a grip for the gun also. If you buy a new one it comes with the Morini grip, I think.
Posted by RML on December 03, 2001 at 18:30:43:
Yes, it's a problem (for me)! My old FP, a Hammerli 160, had the possibility to adjust the grip angle. I miss that possibility on my Morini FP. The Morini bends my wrist to much down, making the hold more unstable. I am now waiting for a new grip (adjustable palm rest), and when I get it I will take the time to do something about that grip angle. But that means long hours with a Dremel tool, woodcarving tools, and a box of plastic wood.
RML
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