Target Talk

IZH 46M - Front Heavy!

Posted by MT on May 09, 2002 at 02:29:24:
OK, second thread on my new IZIH 46M.
Wow, that thing is FRONT HEAVY. Do others find this also? Any solution other than getting used to it? Would I be correct to assume that other higher cost precision air pistols are less front heavy?
Thanks in advance for any help.
MT

Posted by TCooper on May 09, 2002 at 03:11:52:
I had an IZH-46 for about one year. I found it to be too frontend heavy for my liking. My forearm would tire before I could complete a match. After the IZH I bought a TAU-7 and it is balanced more the way I prefer. With the TAU I can relax my grip and the gun still points at the target. If I did this with my IZZY it would point at the floor. The IZH requires a firm grip.
I tried a Morini 162E and a Steyr LP-10. Both these guns weigh about 2.25lbs and are lighter than the IZH. These guns can be shot with a relaxed hand since the frontend is not heavy and balance is different. The IZH-46 has a thick steel compression tube, steel cocking arm and linkages, steel receiver, piston. This stuff is all forward of the trigger and results in a balance that is more forward. Some shooters like this balance and shoot very well with it. I have also heard of a couple of shooters adding weight to the IZH pistol. Many AP shooters do very well with the Russian IZH and high scores are very possible.
Give the -46M a chance and see how you like it. The gun is built tough and should last a long time. I am far from a good shot with an AP but I enjoy trying.
Later,
Todd
We Now Have Some New IZH 46s in now....

Posted by pilkguns on May 09, 2002 at 08:22:56:
that are a little lighter on the front end and have less recoil, We could probably work a swap out if necessary

Posted by mt on May 09, 2002 at 17:07:54:
Thanks for the most generous offer but obviously I can't/shouldn't take you up on your offer. Being brand new to these precision airguns, I simply ordered the gun from the dealer nearest me so I did not order from Pilkguns. Now that I'm a little more clued in as I read all the old posts, obviously I should've considered you as a supplier. So, given that I did not order the IZH from you, I thought I should clarify. Thanks though.
Thanks
MT

Posted by Jim P on May 09, 2002 at 12:36:26:
Very Interesting.
I've been shooting my '46 for a couple of weeks now and am continuously noticing neat things about it:
Like the little latch that holds the cocking arm up. And the reason for that "angle" on the front of the cylinder - so it will stand up on a table in the rest position. It is just one well thought out (or a lot of evolution) pistol. My latest discovery is a threaded hole in the front of the cylinder. I can't guess what they would look like but I'm guessing that is for a weight. I was going to ask if anybody has seen an "official" weight? Or is there something else that hole is for?
Scott, how do they make it lighter? Aluminum parts? Is it now called the IZH-46ML? Cool.
Seeing all the weights on all the target type guns I just assumed that heavier barrels were better and have gotten used to this feel.
It is a neat gun sorry it doesn't work out for everyone.
Jim P.

Posted by pilkguns on May 09, 2002 at 20:50:42:
: Scott, how do they make it lighter? Aluminum parts? Is it now called the IZH-46ML? Cool.
well actually this a retro thing, like going back to the 70's, dude.
These are IZH46's, the Pre M, or if you say it just right it sounds like Premium, They are the older less hyper velocity version, which mean the compression tube is not so long, which does not require so much steel hanging under the front sight.

Posted by Mark Rogers on May 09, 2002 at 12:53:21:
I have shot the 46 for almost 2 years now. It is front heavy and for the most part wasn't a problem. However, the last several months I developed pain in my shooting hand between the first and second fingers. My doctor, also a shooter ( he was in Shooting Times Dec. 2000!) said that the weight was causing my trouble. Even with modifying my grip the problem remained. I found the IZH very accurate shooting in the high 560's with it, but now I have switched to a TAU-7. Accuracy is the same but the "pointability"(??) is better. After shooting it for 2 weeks, my hand no longer is nearly paralyzed. I still have the 46, but find it hard to switch back to from the TAU. Just my 2cents.
Happy shooting!
Mark

Posted by MDriskill on May 09, 2002 at 20:59:59:
OK, this is not exactly an economical solution (!), but if you like the SSP format and want a lighter gun, the Pardini K58 is one answer. I believe it is probably the lightest SSP around.
I used to shoot a friend's K58 a bit and it is an exquisite gun. I once shot a 10-shot group with it that far exceeds anything else I've ever done...I have it hanging on the wall!

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