Target Talk

Two Stage Triggers

Posted by Lawrie on February 15, 2001 at 13:21:44:
Hi Folks,
I'm looking for definitions of two stage triggers as opposed to single stage.
We've had a bit of a discussion on the matter in our club, with various opinions.
Has anyone any thoughts on the subject?
Cheers, Lawrie

Posted by PGFaini on February 15, 2001 at 13:49:03:
Lawrie,
A two stage trigger has two definite stages, first, a "take-up" stage, and then a "release" stage. This is usually accomplished either by the configuration of the trigger cam, which contacts the sear, as on military rifles, or separate spring adjustments for the two stages, as on target guns. The benefit of two stage triggers is that you can take up the first stage, hold, and then follow through with the shot, when the sight picture look right. The perceived weight of the firing stage, being the difference between the two stages, is lighter than the actual weight of pull. Ex: Your 10m Air Pistol, can have 350gm take up pull, and a 400gm. final pull. This will feel like a 50gm. pull...Paul

Posted by JP O'Connor on February 15, 2001 at 23:40:22:
Hopefully, you adjust and weigh your trigger to 500gm or more well before an international (ISSF) or USA (USAS or NRA) competition! Do this well in advance so that you are used to the weight you will have to use in competition.
Your required minimum weight may vary in other countries. "Feel Center!"

Posted by Nicole Hamilton on February 15, 2001 at 13:58:37:
I'm looking for definitions of two stage triggers as opposed to single stage.
A two-stage trigger is one that has a first stage of what's called 'take-up' where there's a little resistance but some 'play' in the trigger. Then you come to the second stage where suddenly it gets very crisp and you can tell that by pulling just a bit more, you'll fire the gun.
I absolutely love two-stage triggers. That's what's in my Steyr LP10P and LG10P, my Pardini SP and even in my match AR-15. And I just sent my old Savage-Anschutz Modell 64 off to Gunsmithing to have them replace the old single-stage trigger in it with a modern two-stage trigger. For my money, if you want to do precision shooting, a two-stage trigger is the only way to go.
What's great about two-stage triggers is that it lets you get your grip settled, including how your index finger is positioned on the trigger without having to worry that you might fire the gun before you mean to.
With a light single-stage trigger, I always have to be careful of as I bring my finger onto the trigger. The problem is that, by definition, your finger is moving as you bring it onto the trigger. With a two-stage trigger, you can settle out all the movement in that take-up stage so that when you reach the second stage, you can be very still and only have to move your finger just a tiny bit to fire the gun. I find I have much more control that way.
Nicki

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