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Shooting Glasses Question (color of cover disk)

Posted by Dean on February 28, 2001 at 07:00:23:
For my shooting glasses, I have a white cover disk and a black cover disk (to cover my non-shooting eye). Does anyone know the conventional wisdom (if in fact there's a prevailing view) for when one should typically use the white disk and when one should use the black one? If it matters, I use a clear, no-power lens in front of my shooting eye.
Thanks in advance for the advice.

Posted by Grzegorz on February 28, 2001 at 07:54:27:
I had a similar problem (I shot air rifle). I heard many advise to use a white cover for nonaiming eye. I reconsidered this and now I think that one should use any white cover for pistol shooting and black one for rifle. When aiming with pistol you have large amount of light coming to your aiming eye. If you put a black cover on nonaiming eye there will be a huge difference between conditions at which your both eyes work. Covered eye "wants" to enlarge a pupil whereas aiming eye wants opposite. They are in "fight" and this is surely not we want to get :-)
When shooting rifle there is a very small amount of light coming to your aiming eye, so the same should be with a other - use black cover.
Grzegorz
For smallbore, esp prone, I had some success and comfort with a black blinder. Eventually, I found that the blinder severely limited my ability to track wind changes. My field of view was severely restricted. I compromised. Lately I've used a dark prescription lens on the non-aiming eye. I can avoid the gross distractions of light while still seeing the better part of the range for wind etc.
I use adjustable shooting glasses. The non-aiming eye has a large lens to afford better eye protection. Both lenses are clear. I attach a colored filter to the non-aiming lens when outdoors, esp. in strong light etc. Indoors I tend towards no filter, and prefer a white or opaque blinder. Mostly for avoiding distractions. It seems to me that when we stop down the rear aperture of the rifle sight we increase depth of field. This should be true for eyes as well. Perhaps it's best to manage just enough light entering both eyes to keep our eyes "stopped down" a bit to help improve depth of field.
After years of shooting with the blinder hat, and a black blinder on the non-aiming eye, I came to the conclusion that the struggles I encounter while trying to stay on top of wind changes were a liability when compared to the minor comfort attained with a totally black sighting area.
I must admit that I am confused about the eye and depth of field though. When a camera lens is stopped down the depth of field increases. When I look though a stopped down aperture I think I get a better sight picture. However, this also means less light entering my eye and the iris should respond by opening.
How is it then that the stopped down aperture seems to improve my perception of depth of field while the reduction in transmitted light should be opening my iris and reducing depth of field?
Dean Peterson

Posted by PGFaini on February 28, 2001 at 12:03:27:
Because depth of field, is controlled by the f-stop. This is the ratio between the focal length, and the aperture. The iris diaphragm, or aperture sight, is acting like a lens, in that this ratio is between it's distance to your retina, and it's diameter. No matter how much your eye's iris dilates, it can't change this focal length, or the light transmission (if the aperture's diameter is less than your eyes pupil diameter). The depth of field only increases when the aperture diameter becomes smaller than the eye's pupil diameter.
At least this is what I think, I'd sure like other opinions.
Paul

Posted by Andy Wai on February 28, 2001 at 11:40:49:
Well, the reason why something on a flat project image is out of focus is a single point from the subject converges to a point either in front or behind the image plane. Therefore, the point is enlarged to a circle at the image plane. Stopping down the lens decreases the size of its aperture and correspondingly decreases the size of the circle at the image plane. Eventually, the circle will be small enough that you can't tell it's not a point. That's how you get depth of field effect.
Now you don't actually need to reduce the size of the lens itself, as long as the diameter of the beam from outside is reduced, you have the same effect. In the case of the eye, you normal use as much of the lens' area as the iris would allow. But if you put an artificial iris in front that's smaller, it will restrict the beam width further and increase the overall dof.
Andy Wai
P.S. Wow, I haven't shot with films for quite a while now and I still remember all these... :-

Posted by kmerrill on February 28, 2001 at 12:19:34:
Thanks for asking this, I was about to ask the same question. The other postings explains why after shooting when I went out side to get my dog, and it was dark, I would go almost blind in my shooting eye for about 60 seconds, once out doors. But since I changed over to the white disk this problem went away.

Posted by Doug White on February 28, 2001 at 19:53:14:
For pistol, the best thing to use is neither. You want the same amount of light going into both eyes, but you don't want to be able to see the sights/target with the non-shooting eye. If you wear regular glasses, a small piece of Scotch tape works fine. Fold over the last 1/4" to make a non-sticky tab, and it will be easy to remove. The tape can be quite small, which will allow you to use both eyes when looking down at the bench for loading & such. If you use fancy shooting glasses, see if you can get a frosted disk.
For rifle, there is very little light getting into the shooting eye because of the peep sight, so a black disk si probably OK. The main thing is to try and maintain balanced illumination between the two eyes. I've read that your eyes are cross-wired enough that blocking all of the light into one eye can significantly affect the vision in the other one.
Doug White

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