Target Talk

Triangular Apertures ???

Posted by W.A on April 19, 2001 at 18:03:19:
Has anyone tried the triangular apertures??
If so, could you give me some feedback?
Thanks

Posted by Richard Ashmore on April 19, 2001 at 18:57:53:
What triangular aperture? They're not allowed on air pistols.

Posted by Andre on April 19, 2001 at 21:03:13:
The new ISSF rules don't specify anything about the shape of the sights, as long as they are metallic, open sights. I've never seen anyone use triangular sights in an air pistol (although Steyr has a sexy new 9mm that incorporates triangular sights), but I haven't seen anything that would prohibit them.

Posted by PGFaini on April 19, 2001 at 21:19:42:
You said it yourself, the operative word being "OPEN". An aperture sight, while a metallic sight, is not an open sight, and is not allowed for pistol. Of course you could try them on a rifle, but when looking through it, the physiology of the eye would center in the triangle, and make it appear circular. What would be the benefit ?Paul

Posted by Andre on April 20, 2001 at 18:30:39:
As I've said, I've never tried that, but it is perfectly possible to build triangular OPEN metallic sights. Steyr has adopted the concept for its new 9mm combat pistol, as I mentioned. So it might be worth a try. And it's not against the rules.

Posted by PGFaini on April 20, 2001 at 19:19:49:
Andre, You're right, as long as it's an open sight, not an aperture sight. This topic was discussed this board a few months ago, with the conclusion that one could cut a narrow slit in the top of the aperture, and it would then qualify as an open sight. I don't know if the fellow ever tried it out, but it's great to have people who are willing to try something different. If we didn't we'd still be competing with sling shots. :=)....Paul :

Posted by Larry Sawyer on April 19, 2001 at 23:37:19:
: Of course you could try them on a rifle, but when looking through it, the physiology of the eye would center in the triangle, and make it appear circular. What would be the benefit?....Paul
I hate to be blunt, but... Nonsense. I see a triangle when I look at the front sight.
After all, it is a triangle.
I bought one a few weeks ago just to try it. It seemed just bizarre enough to warrant a look. I was told by Neal Johnson (where I bought it) that the theory is that instead of looking at and referencing an infinite number of points around a circle, your eye only has to deal with three-- the flat sides of the triangle.
I've only used it a few times, but it takes very little time to get used to it. I stuck it on my air rifle, and shot no better or worse. It actually did seem to center a bit more quickly. In other words, you acquire the image sooner. I've now begun to concentrate on smallbore again now that it's warm out and I can get out and shoot. I'll likely not shoot air rifle until fall again. My own personal concern is that I don't want to get used to a circular aperture and then switch to triangular, and then back again. I like to know what to expect in my sight picture.
So, I may not stick with it. But for someone who only shoots one rifle at one distance (air), it's a real option in my opinion. Try it. They cost about 7.00 and do give a very crisp sight picture.

Posted by PGFaini on April 20, 2001 at 18:12:47:
: Larry, I'm sorry, I nonsensically assumed the aperture sight referred to, was the rear sight, in which case it wouldn't appear as a triangle. I'll try not to engage in such nonsensical assumptions in the future. This bulletin board is no place for such nonsensicalness. I suppose it's because I've (foolishly I admit), always in my forty-five years of target shooting and gunsmithing, called front sights that used inserts of any style, "Globe Sights", and receiver sights, "Aperture Sights". I guess International-Style shooting, to which I'm comparatively new, has it's own peculiar Jargon....
Paul

Posted by W.A on April 20, 2001 at 13:05:05:
Have you tried them on your smallbore?
Well, I never tried the triangular apertures but it seems that it should be "easier" to center the ring.

Posted by Greg Derr on April 20, 2001 at 06:31:13:
Spas Koprinknov(sp?) showed me a set of sight like this just after he defected from the Bulgarian team in 1995.The sight was interesting but did not show any real improvement in either ease of viewing of shooting. Spas was a World Champion free pistol shooter 577 at age 17.He now coaches in Finland

Posted by Ernie on April 20, 2001 at 21:40:57:
I've been using one on my air rifle. Got it from Neal Stepp at ISS -- mostly just for my own amazement. Scores don't seem any different but it IS a bit less tiring on the eye...at least it 'feels' that way to me.

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