Target Talk

SAM K-11

Posted by Adam on April 30, 2001 at 12:43:28:
Does anyone have any experience with the K-11 yet? Positive and/or negative. The grip angle looks pretty steep in the photos. (Not a bad thing). Anything the grip could be compared to? Any info at all would be much appreciated!

Posted by R.M. on April 30, 2001 at 13:44:20:
I have an M10, but have seen a couple of K-11's, and they're very similar in some ways. The grip is a Morini style, if not a full fledged Morini, and the angle is adjustable in 2 directions.
The first time I picked up my M10, I fell in love with it. The grip fit just like a glove.
The SAM's had a bit of a bad reputation at the start, but they seem to have that all worked out now.
In my opinion, you won't go wrong with a SAM. I know MR. Abernethy will disagree with me because he had a bad one, but there's the odd lemon with all makes.

Posted by Clive Kay on May 01, 2001 at 16:48:11:
What can I say..Ihave had them all to test and try and still the SAM K11 takes some beating. I have shot well with it this year with only a few minor seal problems.. I would recommend it highly..

Posted by Fred on May 01, 2001 at 19:49:17:
My loaner broke a spring within days. "Minor seal problems" A high end 10 meter match pistol shouldn't have any of these problems ....

Posted by Charles on May 01, 2001 at 20:08:26:
Hmmm... Didn't the Steyr air pistols have a batch of valves that had leaking problems? If memory serves the cylinder pressure indicator on the PCP version also had leaking problems? Unfortunately the "fix" for the cylinder was removal of the indicator from what I heard (the one's I have used had not leaked yet - knock on wood). Yet the Steyr is one of the most used 10m air pistols in competition out there and IMHO is a great air pistol.
Occasionally manufacturers and mechanisms have problems. How often and how it is taken care of by the mfg. or the distributor is what I look at.
Charles

Posted by Scott H. on May 02, 2001 at 13:48:46:
I own a Mornini 162E1, Pardini K2, and a SAM K11. I wouldn't part with any of them, but, . . . .The SAM is definitely the easiest to shoot well, IMHO. It groups superbly, meaning, in this case, that I often shoot better groups with it than I expect.
Scott H.

Posted by Sherod on May 03, 2001 at 18:40:37:
Great trigger. Lighter than an LP1 or a P-34. I like the angle of the grip. It helps with the shakes. I haven't had a problem yet.

Posted by Ronny Nilsson on May 07, 2001 at 08:29:49:
Hi Adam!
I have imported a few SAM M10 to Sweden, and they worked quite ok.
None of the two K11 worked when they arrived here.
The velocity was very low, and I had to rebuild the reduction valves on both of them.
The construction of the trigger unit makes the adjustments very limited, and difficult to adjust.
A pistol that is so expensive should be tuned and ready when it’s delivered, or at least WORKING!!!
I decided to stop selling this piece of junk, in order to avoid future problems, and a bad reputation as an importer. My advise: Stick to originals and avoid the bad copies!

Posted by Clive Kay on May 07, 2001 at 19:59:32:
I wonder if you have looked at this pistol or what.. The trigger is perfect as was all the ones received here...build quality is up with the best available...What you are reporting is nothing like the results obtained here...
I would recommend this pistol wholeheartedly as the results with it are excellent...

Posted by Ronny Nilsson on May 09, 2001 at 08:01:46:
Well Clive I think you can stop wondering if Iv looked at the pistols or not. I hope you understand that in order to repair the reduction valves in an airpistol you have to do more then just look. In any case I’m very happy that the pistol you received is working very well, but again, mine was not.
So, my advise to shooters that likes the pistol and want to buy one is: Order one, but don’t pay it until you have tested it.

Posted by J saramon on May 17, 2001 at 04:40:48:
Hi. I'm 27 years old I just start shooting k 11 for3 months ( serious with k11 ) and I get score at 575 on third month. I think the Sam is a great gun (I have M 10 before but I dint have a time on it. , In the past i have been an Archer 5 years in my country and went to international match many times

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