Target Talk

Differences Between Blank Target and 'Normal' Target


Posted by ABAS on July 23, 2001 at 20:17:32:
Hi,
I'm a beginner AP shooter and I'm noticing that I can do very tight groups in blank target. However, when I shoot to 'normal' targets, the results aren't so good and some groups are very bad.
When I shoot to blank target, usually the groups are up and right but, again, very tight. When I shoot to a 'normal' target the groups are usually right and down (sometimes we cannot call it a group).
Is this normal? Your tips about this will be welcome.
ABAS.

Posted by Matt Summers on July 23, 2001 at 21:12:58:
ABAS,
When you shoot a blank target, you are probably aiming to put your shots through the 4.5mm hole left by your first shot.
This is a somewhat more precise aiming point than the 10 ring of a standard bullseye (for pistol).
When shooting at a "regular" target, that big (fuzzy, hopefully, from focusing on the front sight) black circle presents a larger area in which to place a shot. It is in this situation that you must aim to hit not just in the middle of the black, but the point at the "center of the center".
This is my own understanding, and seems to work for me. (I'm not a coach, just a shooter).
-Matt

Posted by JP O'Connor on July 23, 2001 at 21:16:52:
The target is a distraction! ...or at least it can become one!
When we shoot on a blank card, there is little or no aiming reference. We end up looking at the front sight more because there isn't much else to look at. We also end up holding our arm and wrist almost the same each time because we have developed a feel for the "normal" position. Finally, our trigger control is usually better because we are more relaxed without "trying to hit" that dancing bull.
With a bull, we are often tempted to look at the target rather than the front sight. Not what we want! Watch the front sight, maintain excellent sight alignment, and deliver the shot from within the steadier parts of the hold movement. The steadiest time is right as we arrive on the area of aim.
Because of the visual input of the bull, we are more aware of the movement and thus tempted to over hold and/or be less smooth with the trigger. We also pay less attention to the feel of the position so can be less consistent in that regard as well.
There was/is an older thread below on using the center, six, or sub-six hold for air pistol. (Not the newer thread about center fire hold.) One of the advantages of the sub-six hold is the target is less of a factor in drawing our eye from the front sight to the bull and it doesn't make the movement appear quite as frenetic. Of course, different folks have different preferences on this.
Good luck, have fun, and...
"Feel Center!"
-JP

Posted by David M on July 24, 2001 at 07:54:22:
On a blank Target your eye will focus on the foresight, but when you have a target your eye will focus on the black bull.
To stop this you should use a weak positive lens to help bring the focus back to the foresight.
On a blank card you should not see a pellet hole, the de-focused blur of the will not permit it. Hence the shot pattern should be slightly vertical grouping as a exact lateral alignment is achieved on the sights but the vertical has no reference area.
When you add the black target to the picture it then gives a blurred aiming reference that helps bring the group back to circular.
The critical thing is sight alignment not target alignment.

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