Posted by Craig Lynch on July 30, 2001 at 21:04:42: Hi all,
I'm planning
to buy one of these two top-pistols, and for the record I'm only a beginner. I
would however give the edge to the CM162EI. Tell me if my reasons are correct
enough to justify my choice.
First, the muzzle flip on the Morini isn't a
disadvantage. In fact, if you focus on the front sight, the movement of it on
the firing may help you to follow through, and not to immediately focus on the
target as it may happen with zero-recoil pistols like the LP10.
Second, the
recoil absorber on the LP10 isn't really worth its price... On PCP pistols,
recoil isn't excessive, even for beginners. The recoil felt with the Morini
isn't going to disturb so much the sights that it'll be harder to
shoot.
Third, the muzzle jump helps you to evaluate the consistency of your
grip. You know you're not gripping with the same intensity when the muzzle jumps
higher or lower than with other shots in the rear notch. With the LP10, you
don't see it; you can just interpretate the results of the target...
Fourth,
even if the trigger is a matter of personal preferences, it is common knowledge
that the Morini trigger is excellent, and will suit every shooter needs. Now,
while a lot of shooters may say that the LP10 trigger is superb, there will be
also quite a few that'll say they don't like it. Whereas for the Morini
everybody will agree that it is fine for everybody.
Fifth, the finish and
the grip are nicer on the Morini. It seems that the Morini grips on the CM162EI
fit "more hands" than the Morini grips on the LP10... But this is not a real
advantage, IMHO.
So, what do you think about this comparison? Am I right to
give my thumbs up to the Morini instead of the LP10 or did I missed some points?
Thanks, Craig
Posted by jim on July 31, 2001 at 00:40:19:
I have owned an LP1P, P34, 162
and the LP10.
Though I shot them about equally I found that I prefer the LP10
best for the adjustability of the grip over the 162(electronic trigger).
I
found that the lack of muzzle jump allowed me to concentrate more on the front
sight. And I do not refocus on the target. That is what the carrier is for,
after follow thru and after I have tabled the pistol.
Posted by greg on July 31, 2001 at 01:02:54:
I haven't tried the Morini,
but I have an LP10. The lack of muzzle movement on the part of the gun enables
me to immediately know if I "jerk", "pull", or flinch at all. Any motion is
because of me! A perfect shot is almost completely still and you KNOW its going
into the 10 ring! (If the sight picture is correct) Hope that helps.
Greg
Posted by Andi on July 31, 2001 at 05:09:42:
I owned a LP10 and a 162MI
and perhaps I'm going to try a 162EI soon.
I think :
Both guns are really
good.
The LP10 grip can be angled easily. I never manage to get the same
with the 162MI.
The LP10 overall quality is a little bit better than the
162MI.
The LP10 recoilless system allows you to better recall your shoot. You
have less surprise with the LP10, a 7 is a 7 and not perhaps a 9 or 8 like with
162.
The LP10 come with 4 weights which allows you to find the best balance.
Of course you can buy weights for the Morini as well.
The Steyr service is
really good, at least until now. You can phone them or email them and they will
be really useful and quick.
Otherwise I had the same results with the LP10
and the 162MI.
What I don't like on the LP10 is :
The grip. The Morini
162EI grip is much better than the Steyr LP10 (Morini) grip. You can just look
them both and you will find a lot of differences.
The LP10's air cylinders
doesn't have any integrated pressure indicator. You have to unscrew/screw them a
couple of times before knowing if you need to fill them or continue shooting.
TheLP10 is much more loud when dry firing. When I try to train inside my
flat or my wife start nagging me or I wake up my kids :-)
Posted by Dick on July 31, 2001 at 08:06:27:
Craig --
I went through
a similar thrash when I narrowed my choices down to the LP10 or CM 162EI. After
several discussions with Warren Potter, Don Nygord, and a slew of other
experienced AP Shooters I bought the Morini from PILKGUNS. The basic consenus is
the jury is still out regarding the effect of the recoiless system on shot
performance. On the other hand -- it's clear that a world class trigger is
essential and the Morini electronic trigger is a dream. Best Regards. Dick
Posted by David M on July 31, 2001 at 18:25:48:
I have one of the first
Morini 162 (approx. 6 years)and it has done lots of work. I considered a new
pistol either LP10 or P34 a couple of times ,even shooting them a number of
times.
I still have the Morini,it still out shoots me, and it has a great
trigger.
Posted by Craig Lynch on July 31, 2001 at 20:21:03:
Hi David,
Yes, it
seems that a lot of top level shooters like you like the Morini. But I was
wondering if it was ok too for beginners, or if it was easier to get a
zero-recoil pistol to start with. When I'll shoot 570 too, I'll get a Morini
like all other for sure !
Craig
Posted by JP O'Connor on August 01, 2001 at 15:57:20:
The Morini
electronic trigger is certainly ok for shooters of all levels. Easily and
accurately adjustable, clean and crisp... once set it can be forgotten. I loaned
one of mine to a junior rifle shooter who shot women's air pistol at USAS
Nationals and loaned it to another who shot men's air pistol in the GA State
Games.
Both had previously shot Steyr LP1P models and one had also fired a
SAM M10. Both loved the Morini electronic and raved about the trigger... even if
it was 400 or so grams heavier than their rifle triggers! ;-)
"Feel Center!"
-JP
Posted by Pradeep on August 01, 2001 at 05:46:04:
Might as well start with
the Morini and use it for 6 years like David ;) Familiarity with your gun over a
long period can only help you, instead of getting the latest "fashion" model
every year.
All the top end air pistols will shoot 600 easily, it's all up to
you.
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