Target Talk

Gripping Pistol

Posted by Mark on August 22, 2001 at 10:32:43:
I have been shooting for about 4 months now and wish to know what is the best way to grip an air pistol. I tried the "normal" manner, which is firm but my shots usually fall to the left. But when I tried holding the pistol loosely, with my little finger off the grip, my grouping gets better, more centre even.
Any advice greatly appreciated.

Posted by RML on August 22, 2001 at 11:11:30:
That makes sense. Of the 3 fingers gripping the pistol, the upper finger should apply most pressure, the middle one less pressure, and the third finger (little finger) should not apply any pressure at all (it should be there mostly because you have nowhere else to put it). If you apply pressure with your little finger, you may pull your shoots down, just like you observed.
Regards,
RML

Posted by Gene Rotsch on August 23, 2001 at 02:24:21:
Hi Mark, There is more to it than just holding the grip of your pistol. Have you done any work on the grips to get the pistol to point straight when you bring it up into position? You should be able to close your eyes, bring the pistol up into position, and have the sight alignment be very close to perfect. Ideally, when you grip the pistol, the middle joint of your fingers should be perpendicular to the bore of the pistol. That way, when you apply more pressure to the grip with your fingers, the force is straight back and not pushing the pistol left or right, no matter how much tension you apply to the grip. Even pressure should be applied with all your fingers and thumb. The pressure you apply with your thumb needs to be toward the palm of your hand, rather than down, toward your little finger. You want to be able to grip the pistol the exact same way every time you pick it up. It will start to be like putting the pistol "on". Matching features of your hand to mating features on the grip. This is why the grip work you do, or have done for you, is so important. After you have your grip sorted out, the next step is a smooth shot release, without upsetting your perfect sight alignment. Jerking the trigger can also cause your shots to go low left. I hope this all makes sense to you. As you work with your shot technique, make one change at a time, and take notes on the different things you try. That way you can track your progress and avoid repeating something that didn't work for you, a few months earlier. You have chosen a sport that is both challenging and rewarding. If you can, find a coach in your area that can get you headed in the right direction. So you can build your technique from good basics. Have a great time.
Deep 10's,
Gene

Posted by Alexey on August 23, 2001 at 03:35:47:
IMHO the thumb thing is disputable. It should not have any active part in the business at all, because it somehow interferes with the freedom of your trigger finger.

Posted by Alexey on August 23, 2001 at 04:08:00:
Dear Mark,
My first coach had it this way: Imagine that you caught a sparrow. How should you grip it? Obviously not loosely; it would fly away. And not tight, because you didn't want to squeeze the life out of the poor thing. He never claimed the formula, by the way; he attributed the idea to the fencing community. Also, he never advised to employ your thumb otherwise than in strictly passive capacity. He was a good coach: he set on his way among many others Boris Kokorev, 1996 Free Pistol Olympic Gold.
My personal opinion on your problem is this: your static grip has little or nothing to do whith it. It's your follow through, as always...
Naturally, a beginner got problems. By the way, the experienced shooter has just the same complement of the same problems, only he has learned how to cope with them. Those are the problems of your body and the problems of your mind. The best thing you can do, forget the problems of your body. The shooting sport is essentially a mental activity. You see, you are always tempted to address your body, because its pliable (let me tighten my grip, it will solve my problem; let me set my feet further apart, it will solve my problem; let I face the target more squarely, it will solve my problem...), and leave alone your rogue uneducated mind, which is the real culprit. You must carefully, possibly (necessarily?) indirectly address it, cheat it, if needs be, into positively and unconditionally follow through. It will take you some time and the best of your intelligence and ingenuity. So and no otherwise...
Another piece of advice: read carefully every line left by such experts as JP O'Connor and Don Nygord. Of course, the less experienced are also capable of sound advice, but they are many, and you cannot yet tell the pearls from the cowflop all on your own.
Best regards, Alexey

Posted by Patrick Haynes on August 23, 2001 at 18:19:17:
In Reply to: Gripping Weapon posted by Mark on August 22, 2001 at 10:32:43:
Too much pressure by the little finger usually produces shots low and to the left (as does snatching, pulling down on the trigger or too much thumb).
I was told to perform a grip similar to what one of the other gentlemen said:
1. thumb is loose and relaxed along the thumbrest
2. primary gripping pressure is produced by middle finger
3. secondary pressure is provided by third finger (the one beside the little finger) - also this finger can produce minute changes in front sight elevation by increasing/decreasing the pressure
4. little finger is loose, just along for the ride.
Make sure the grip is firm but not to the point where your hand starts to shake (that is _bad_). If your fingertips or nails whiten, you are gripping too tight. Back it off until colour returns to them.
Lastly, when you find a good grip (pressure), maintain it.
Good luck!

Posted by Mark on August 26, 2001 at 05:51:12:
Thanx for the advice. It has helped me a great deal and restored my confidence in shooting.
Mark

Posted by sct on September 04, 2001 at 08:17:44:
When someone swings a baseball at you in a back alley they are using a weapon. When playing baseball it is only a piece of sporting equipment
When shooting your firearm at the range it is not a weapon, just a piece of sporting equipment!
Why give the anti-gunners verbal ammunition?

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