Posted by STL William on August 27, 2001 at 22:30:33:
I would like to
know how many if any of you move your rear sight forward or backward in between
different positions. I haven't before but at the advice of a friend am
considering varying it 1 inch between prone and stand. I would also appreciate
any advice on the subject beyond finding out how many people do it.
Thanks in
advance.
William
Posted by STL William on August 27, 2001 at 22:30:33:
I would like to
know how many if any of you move your rear sight forward or backward in between
different positions. I haven't before but at the advice of a friend am
considering varying it 1 inch between prone and stand. I would also appreciate
any advice on the subject beyond finding out how many people do it.
Thanks
in advance.
William
Posted by Jim on August 27, 2001 at 23:33:40:
It has been many years
since my 3 position days but as I recall, it was not a common thing to move your
rear sight between positions. Instead the more common thing was to invest in an
adjustable Iris for the rear sight itself. I actual preferred the additional eye
relief from Prone to Standing. Kneeling just sort of fell in the middle.
The
advantage of an adjustable butt is self evident in this instance. Instead of
moving the rear sight and impacting your zero, just shorten the stock. I had
almost a full inch difference from prone to offhand.
Good luck..
Posted by Larry Sawyer on August 28, 2001 at 00:55:58:
I have the rear
sight in one place for prone, move it back for standing perhaps an inch or more
(it's not in front of me right now, so I'm not sure of the exact amount), then
forward some for kneeling-- but not all the way to the prone location. So I have
three different positions for the rear sight. I find that it's necessary to
maintain reasonably proper eye relief.
The change in p.o.i. is minimal, and
besides, other factors like sling pressure or lack thereof will change the
p.o.i. more-- I think. So it's a non-issue.
The goal is to hit the x ring. I
say do whatever's necessary to maintain decent form, make the rifle feel right,
and hit the center.
Posted by Michelle on August 28, 2001 at 17:43:14:
the rear sight should
always be set up in a certain way. to do this, ideally, you will need someone to
help you but you can do it on your own with a little difficulty.
the set up
of the rear sight, (hmm how to word this) the distance between the rear sight
and the fore sight should be the same a the distance between the foresight tube
and the foresight element (if this makes sense, if not let me know and I’ll try
and word it better) so to do this set the rear sight as far forward as it goes
and get someone to move it back until you feel the distances are the same.
as for the Iris (as mentioned in others reply's) to set this up you need to
open it as far as it goes (or up to about 1.5) then close it down until you get
cobwebs in your sight the open it until it come just clear.
Hope this helps
you if not e-mail me
michelle
Posted by Michael Ray on August 28, 2001 at 22:28:43:
I feel you should
move it between positions. My prone and kneeling are about as far forward as I
can get it (note I wear glasses) and standing is maybe 1.5" back from that.
Essentially you are keeping the eye relief constant.
Posted by michelle on August 29, 2001 at 05:13:36:
It’s not about keeping
the eye relief constant it is about keeping it set up correctly as a explained
in my other post
michelle
Posted by Ken Johnson on August 29, 2001 at 23:01:41:
OK, the rear sight,
huh?
As for the change of zero, so what? If you're more worried about
clicking to get back into the ten ring than sighting quality, then you should
have not asked or answered this post. Sorry for being so blunt.
As some
mentioned, eye relief is important. What's most important, and is a function of
eye relief, is sight picture quality. This is the purpose for moving the sights
(the major purpose). Another purpose is to maintain ease of sight alignment. If
any one has a question about sight alignment, I'll answer that later.
The
sights should be moved in each position to accommodate for clarity. The position
of the buttplate should not be changed to "fix" eye distance to the sight. Butt
length should not be changed to "fix" eye distance to the sight. There's a
reason why the sights are not welded to the action. It's so you can move
them!!
It was a great question and elicited a lot of responses. If you want
the details, I can give them to you, but to answer simply, move'm.
Ken J
Posted by STL William on August 30, 2001 at 09:18:59:
This is all quite
fascinating to me, as I have never experienced or noticed problems in focus
associated with the rear sight except for the diameter of the aperture. It could
be that my eyes are still young or that I have never paid that much attention to
it while shooting.
I'd appreciate some more info Ken if you wouldn't mind.
If you think it's too boring for the board then e-mail me with the details.
Thanks.
William
Posted by coachesRus on August 30, 2001 at 17:27:52:
: : This is all
quite fascinating to me, as I have never experienced or noticed problems in
focus associated with the rear sight except for the diameter of the aperture. It
could be that my eyes are still young or that I have never paid that much
attention to it while shooting.
: I'd appreciate some more info Ken if you
wouldn't mind. If you think it's too boring for the board then e-mail me with
the details. Thanks.
: William
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